No disrespect to anyone, but I'm scratching my head to all the different ways to raise action (after proper set up checks), other than the raising the bridge. Sounds as if you did it right. Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright 2020 Banjo Hangout. is it the rim that started to become oval a bit? Tune the banjo back up & let it sit for a day to stabilize--then you'll know if it's right. so if that s the case let say that the tone ring is strong enough to stay in shape but at the heel the rim would have shrunk a bit and thats why the shim is needed to give back the proper fit rim neck lets try that for a cause !!! Place the bag in the banjo’s case pocket so they will be out of the way. Step-by-Step to Professional Banjo Set-Up By Tom Nechville The following procedure can make a world of difference in how your banjo sounds. OK I'll shut up now :), Edited by - DeanT on 02/08/2012 10:03:32, dickinnorwich - Posted - 02/08/2012:  10:38:18.  ARCHIVED TOPIC: shimming the neck, Please note this is an archived topic, so it is locked and unable to be replied to. If you find that your banjo sounds good, with heelpiece to rim contact, don't worry. steve davis - Posted - 02/08/2012:  06:51:13. If you are interested I can get you in touch with Tim regarding a new bridge. Measured with Webber gage blocks. My apologies to Eric for straying off topic, but I love this stuff, it's what makes banjos tick! What did you use for shims? ', 'Bart Reiter 11” Bacophone Plus, Whyte Laydie & Bacon tone ring & HSC'. Don't screw with the rim / neck interface. Problem solved. It is my understanding that a shim, properly placed, should not create an obvious gap between the heel of the neck and the banjo pot because a gap would reduce neck to pot contact. Stuff a big wad of crumpled newspaper under the peghead to keep it elevated.  Other Banjo-Related Topics It was my way of making sure that the taller bridge would work, and making a template for proper bridge height for my banjo. eric cash - Posted - 02/08/2012:  06:59:53. when i removed the neck the hole on the tone ring didnt seem right ! It is my understanding that a shim, properly placed, should not create an obvious gap between the heel of the neck and the banjo pot because a gap would reduce neck to pot contact. Next the height of the bridge usually a replacement for more height as the action would likely be too low. My intention was to make sure it was the correct height before buying a new bridge. i did a small notch in it so i would fully touch the heel of the neck its better. Gold American Express gives a richer sound than Mastercard or Visa.I don't think there is such a thing as pre-war credit cards, or I'd use one of those. My solution:  Higher bridge. I also start by making my bridge thicker than a factory bridge. Because I found out several years ago, that if I started with a $2 3/4" tall Stu Mac bridge, or a 5/8" bridge with a popsicle stick glued to it....and sized it as described... to a buzzing banjo with low action... my banjo sounded much better than egging my rim or shimming the neck to work with the 5/8" stock and de$igner bridge$ I tried. I use credit cards. dickinnorwich - Posted - 02/08/2012:  07:06:19. By nature, a solid neck joint and higher bridge is louder. I've never cranked a co-rod, shimmed, or smoked a truss rod since. 1. Stuff a big wad of crumpled newspaper under the peghead to keep it elevated. Address and label the box and take to a post office or shipping company. Add another layer of crumpled newspaper on top of the peghead so that it is suspended and equally supported on top and bottom. no fret wear. I would prefer, as would most people, to have no shims. Following these steps will help revive your old banjo, and is a concise guide for achieving optimum sound on any traditional banjo. steve davis - Posted - 02/08/2012:  08:28:32, Edited by - steve davis on 02/08/2012 08:34:02, eric cash - Posted - 02/08/2012:  08:45:44. yep thats what i though but i did put a bit more pressure on the head but its still at 93 ,but equal all around . I also realize that a luthier, and certainly not a factory, could pay this much attention to every banjo. Did you try adjusting your coordinator rods first. $3.00 shipping. Shims can and do affect the tone of a banjo. Close the box and seal with packaging tape. Leave it alone. Fill more newspaper or bubble wrap in the void under the heal of the banjo neck. The banjo neck used in this example was already shaped and the heel wasn’t cut at all. A shim is a response to the fact that it's often not a perfect world and to this point Dean is correct. Laurie Grundy - Posted - 02/08/2012:  07:29:37, eric cash - Posted - 02/08/2012:  07:37:08, Ill go cut myself a 10 inches ruler and try the quarter but the reading on my drum dial say 93 and yep brand new and it sounded wonderful maybe my ears are getting fancy. steve davis - Posted - 02/08/2012:  07:03:24. Edited by - steve davis on 02/08/2012 06:16:04. Some guys like brass or steel shim stock, made from feeler gauges. Bill.O, Edited by - goldtopia on 02/08/2012 06:28:16, eric cash - Posted - 02/08/2012:  06:32:13. A twisted neck, usually a problem with one-piece necks, makes the nut be on a different lateral plane than the bridge, so if the neck is twisted clockwise (the most common direction), the 3rd and 4th strings will buzz right away, but the 1st and 2nd usually won't. Give it a little time to settle. Place the resonator in the case and fill it with loosely crumpled newspaper. Why do I do this? In fact, I will frequently go with the next higher, or lower, increment bridge and then fine tune with a thin shim. Close the case and secure the latch to prevent it from opening.  Banjo Building, Setup, and Repair Determine if you need neck bow adjustment through truss rod adjustment. I can easily spend and entire afternoon dishing, sizing and slotting a bridge to get the strings absolutely exactly where I want them with no tolerances involved. That's probably not a job I would recommend for a newbie but someone experienced in good setup can certainly do it. Just because it's new, or expensive, or made on a jig, or laser cut or whatever, and assembled by robots or non banjo players, or even banjo players or skilled craftsmen, doesn't mean one bridge fits all. You'd probably get in your car, drive down to CT, and hurt me if I pulled a stunt like that! Kmise Ukulele Neck for Tenor Banjo Ukelele Uke Mahogany Diy Parts Unfinished 5 Pcs. John: The neck/rim interface is what sets the action for a given bridge. Hand Fitting a One Piece Flange Banjo Neck. That means 80% or more of the joint is airspace, which transfers no vibration and impairs the banjo's performance dramatically. Precision action adjustments, to the tolerances to which I'm referring, are extremely difficult to nail with a bridge and relatively easy to nail with a thin shim. So I don't think it's necessarily a case of either-or (bridge vs. shim) as much as it may be both bridge and need be. In other words, your rim is shorter longitudinally (front to back) than it is laterally, side to side. I'm more inclined to use a sandpaper-thickness shim than I am to screw up a bridge that was designed for that size and weight. Edited by - beegee on 02/08/2012 06:18:07, goldtopia - Posted - 02/08/2012:  06:25:49.

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